http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh Comments & Reviews of http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh on StumbleUpon en-us Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:26:49 -0800 Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:47:37 -0700 http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh http://cdn.stumble-upon.com/images/logo_su_36x36.png Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:54:28 -0700 http://sap-sandwich.stumbleupon.com/review/23995081/ sap-sandwich - "A Democratic senator told me that, late last year, in an off-the-record lunch meeting, Secretary of Defense Gates met with the Democratic caucus in the Senate. (Such meetings are held regularly.) Gates warned of the consequences if the Bush Administration staged a pre-mptive strike on Iran, saying, as the senator recalled, "We'll create generations of jihadists, and our grandchildren will be battling our enemies here in America."¯ Gates's comments stunned the Democrats at the lunch, and another senator asked whether Gates was speaking for Bush and Vice-President Dick Cheney. Gates's answer, the senator told me, was "Let's just say that I'm here speaking for myself."¯ (A spokesman for Gates confirmed that he discussed the consequences of a strike at the meeting, but would not address what he said, other than to dispute the senator's characterization.)"]]> http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:41:57 -0700 http://john77075.stumbleupon.com/review/23592345/ john77075 - tks to Little-Wing]]> http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:50:38 -0700 http://iw84no1.stumbleupon.com/review/23563005/ IW84NO1 - Under federal law, a Presidential Finding, which is highly classified, must be issued when a covert intelligence operation gets under way and, at a minimum, must be made known to Democratic and Republican leaders in the House and the Senate and to the ranking members of their respective intelligence committees--the so-called Gang of Eight. Money for the operation can then be reprogrammed from previous appropriations, as needed, by the relevant congressional committees, which also can be briefed. "The Finding was focussed on undermining Iran's nuclear ambitions and trying to undermine the government through regime change," a person familiar with its contents said, and involved "working with opposition groups and passing money." The Finding provided for a whole new range of activities in southern Iran and in the areas, in the east, where Baluchi political opposition is strong, he said.]]> http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:25:23 -0700 http://arachne929.stumbleupon.com/review/23317640/ Arachne929 - There always has been something rotten in the state of Denmark (UNITED STATES) and the Bush regime. From the site: When it came to the Iraq war, Fallon said, "Did I bitch about some of the things that were being proposed? You bet. Some of them were very stupid." The Democratic leadership's agreement to commit hundreds of millions of dollars for more secret operations in Iran was remarkable, given the general concerns of officials like Gates, Fallon, and many others. "The oversight process has not kept pace--it's been coöpted" by the Administration, the person familiar with the contents of the Finding said. "The process is broken, and this is dangerous stuff we're authorizing."]]> http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:30:35 -0700 http://cheriibes.stumbleupon.com/review/23291595/ cheriibes - Seymour Hersh-courageously curious mind, the very best sources and the most reliable information.]]> http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:21:52 -0700 http://little-wing.stumbleupon.com/review/22981738/ Little-Wing - http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh Prepa ring the Battlefield The Bush Administration steps up its secret moves against Iran. by Seymour M. Hersh "Clandestine operations against Iran are not new. United States Special Operations Forces have been conducting cross-border operations from southern Iraq, with Presidential authorization, since last year. These have included seizing members of Al Quds, the commando arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and taking them to Iraq for interrogation, and the pursuit of "high-value targets" in the President's war on terror, who may be captured or killed. But the scale and the scope of the operations in Iran, which involve the Central Intelligence Agency and the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), have now been significantly expanded, according to the current and former officials. Many of these activities are not specified in the new Finding, and some congressional leaders have had serious questions about their nature." "Although some legislators were troubled by aspects of the Finding, and "there was a significant amount of high-level discussion" about it, according to the source familiar with it, the funding for the escalation was approved. In other words, some members of the Democratic leadership--Congress has been under Democratic control since the 2006 elections--were willing, in secret, to go along with the Administration in expanding covert activities directed at Iran, while the Party's presumptive candidate for President, Barack Obama, has said that he favors direct talks and diplomacy." "A Democratic senator told me that, late last year, in an off-the-record lunch meeting, Secretary of Defense Gates met with the Democratic caucus in the Senate. (Such meetings are held regularly.) Gates warned of the consequences if the Bush Administration staged a preėmptive strike on Iran, saying, as the senator recalled, "We'll create generations of jihadists, and our grandchildren will be battling our enemies here in America." Gates's comments stunned the Democrats at the lunch, and another senator asked whether Gates was speaking for Bush and Vice-President Dick Cheney. Gates's answer, the senator told me, was "Let's just say that I'm here speaking for myself." (A spokesman for Gates confirmed that he discussed the consequences of a strike at the meeting, but would not address what he said, other than to dispute the senator's characterization.)" ____________________________________________ - Using military force against Iran is not the answer - have we not learned anything yet ?! My hope is that this will not happen but the war drums are beating... they have never stopped. How can there even be talk of Iran when you see what happened in Iraq and the increasing trouble in Afghanistan, not to mention the mess in our own country! War is NEVER the answer!]]> http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:08:22 -0700 http://athee.stumbleupon.com/review/22999809/ Athee - The Bush Administration steps up its secret moves against Iran. Read This. This is crazy! To see or hear an interview with Seymour Hersh on this article at Democracy Now! go to www.democracynow.org/shows/2008/6/30.]]> http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:12:06 -0700 http://benadamx.stumbleupon.com/review/22998354/ benadamx - "Late last year, Congress agreed to a request from President Bush to fund a major escalation of covert operations against Iran, according to current and former military, intelligence, and congressional sources. These operations, for which the President sought up to four hundred million dollars, were described in a Presidential Finding signed by Bush, and are designed to destabilize the countryā€s religious leadership. The covert activities involve support of the minority Ahwazi Arab and Baluchi groups and other dissident organizations. They also include gathering intelligence about Iranā€s suspected nuclear-weapons program."]]> http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:44:01 -0700 http://pokerbum.stumbleupon.com/review/22982154/ pokerbum - From the page: "The Bush Administration steps up its secret moves against Iran."]]> http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:12:24 -0700 http://yobaba.stumbleupon.com/review/22975836/ yobaba - Late last year, Congress agreed to a request from President Bush to fund a major escalation of covert operations against Iran, according to current and former military, intelligence, and congressional sources. These operations, for which the President sought up to four hundred million dollars, were described in a Presidential Finding signed by Bush, and are designed to destabilize the country's religious leadership. The covert activities ... also include gathering intelligence about Iran's suspected nuclear-weapons program. There's more: The person in the Bush administration who most wants a hot conflict with Iran is Vice President Cheney. Multiple sources have reported that a senior aide on Vice President Cheney's national security team has been meeting with policy hands of the American Enterprise Institute, one other think tank, and more than one national security consulting house and explicitly stating that Vice President Cheney does not support President Bush's tack towards Condoleezza Rice's diplomatic efforts and fears that the President is taking diplomacy with Iran too seriously. This White House official has stated to several Washington insiders that Cheney is planning to deploy an "end run strategy" around the President if he and his team lose the policy argument. The thinking on Cheney's team is to collude with Israel, nudging Israel at some key moment in the ongoing standoff between Iran's nuclear activities and international frustration over this to mount a small-scale conventional strike against Natanz using cruise missiles (i.e., not ballistic missiles). Great.]]> http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh